http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-17735991

It's about time to, this place is full of women, locked up for menial crimes when they should be offered counselling and support instead.

About time too the amount of young women that lost their life in that place when the majority were in for minor offences one of the places I worked, females different kettle of fish, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Hospital_for_Scotland_and_Northern_Ireland

woodstock69 wrote:

About time too the amount of young women that lost their life in that place when the majority were in for minor offences one of the places I worked, females different kettle of fish, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Hospital_for_Scotland_and_Northern_Ireland

Carstairs a place of incarceration for the criminally insane, a different ball game altogether. I've met a lady who worked in that place, one of the most switched on women I've ever met.

She had a real understanding of the system and how it can suck peope in, then punish them when they 'breach' the rules that were put in place without forethought and compassion.

Is Carstairs a male only institution?

I believe it is now, but in the 70s 80s they had a female wing, as you pointed out and I should have been more clear in the fact almost all were classed as criminally insane but in the early days it was brutal, I worked in secure for a good part of my nursing career, went on to specialist dementia care.

woodstock69 wrote:

I believe it is now, but in the 70s 80s they had a female wing, as you pointed out and I should have been more clear in the fact almost all were classed as criminally insane but in the early days it was brutal, I worked in secure for a good part of my nursing career, went on to specialist dementia care.

Cool, you would've got a good grounding working there. I've worked as a practical nurse in the past , couldn't do it now though I'm out of touch with it all.

peabrain wrote:

woodstock69 wrote:

I believe it is now, but in the 70s 80s they had a female wing, as you pointed out and I should have been more clear in the fact almost all were classed as criminally insane but in the early days it was brutal, I worked in secure for a good part of my nursing career, went on to specialist dementia care.

Cool, you would've got a good grounding working there. I've worked as a practical nurse in the past , couldn't do it now though I'm out of touch with it all.

Yes but alot of what you learned would still be there in you. I mean if you happened to be in a situation where someone needed help... you'd probably be surprised what you remembered

these skills never ever go away they just become dormant and are there when needed,when I am confronted with a situation instead of the usual throw yourself in feet first I assess as I approach and deal with it with the minimum of fuss or drama

Come to think of it you guys are right, ,

I've had quite a few wounded weans at my door over the years looking to get patched up.

I think remaining calm outwardly goes a long way to reassuring them, as the sight of blood has some kids (and adults)
either faint or hysterical.

It's the prospect of having to work with the N.H.S again that I'd have the problem with, it's in such a turmoil just now and good nurses are being overworked and disillusioned by the system.

you have to have somewhere to put the murderers though

I've known a few wowen of ended in Corton Vale but it was through drugs mainly

Personally I don't believe in prison so would happy if it was demolished